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Hvala i Tornadu!

U predvečerje premijere košarkaške A1 Lige za prvaka, u kojoj Košarkaši Zadra, ponosno, kao prvi na tablici regularnog dijela prvenstva dočekuju Zabok (utorak, 20. ožujka, dvorana Krešimira Ćosića, 19 sati), predsjednik Košarkaškog kluba Zadar iznenadio je predstavnike sedme sile, pristojno se zahvalivši svim novinarima na korektnom praćenju kluba kroz Prvu ligu.

– Zajedno uz trud našeg stručnog stožera i igrača i Vi ste jednim dijelom zaslužni za osvojeno prvo mjesto u prvenstvu i plasman u Ligu za prvaka gdje nas čekaju novi, veliki izazovi – napisao je u svom priopćenju predsjednik Šimunov. Lijepo sročeno, možda melem za uši nekima, ali zasigurno ne pripadnicima navijačke skupine Tornado koji su u najmanju ruku ogorčeni predsjednikovim priopćenjem, i to s debelim razlogom. Naime, Šimunov se u ni jednom dijelu teksta nije osvrnuo na pripadnike navijačke skupine Tornado, koji su pratili košarkaše Zadra na SVIM, napominjemo, SVIM gostujućim utakmicama ove sezone.

Istina, Tornada ove godine nije bilo kao organizirane navijačke skupine na većini domaćih utakmica (bili su na utakmicama, ali nisu organizirano navijali), ali to zasigurno nije razlog da ih se u potpunosti ignorira, kao da ne postoje. Valjalo bi predsjednika kluba podsjetiti kako su upravo ti fanatični navijači godinama, doduše odnedavno u pomlađenoj garnituri, jednako zdušno kao i oni stariji bodrili svoj klub, a zasigurno ćete priznati da su velikim dijelom zaslužni i za sve osvojene trofeje. Ne treba valjda naglašavati kako su svi ti mladi momci uglavnom iz svojh džepova svih ovih godina plaćali odlaske na gostovanja. Nerijetko su se tako čelni ljudi iz kluba, uključujući i predsjednika Šimunova, oglušivali na Tornadove apele, odnosno pozive da im se organizira(ju) autobus(i) za gostovanja (posljednji primjer neka bude utakmica u Dubrovniku, Dubrovnik – Zadar). Sjetit ćemo se također nerijetkih primjera kad je Boris Marin jednim telefonskim pozivom, uglavnom upućenog tadašnjem ministru, Božidaru Kalmeti, rješavao autobuse. I onda, kada su autobusi Liburnije bili raspoređeni prema svim linijama, kad se ‘ništa’ nije moglo ‘iskemijati’, našlo bi se rješenje i nikad nije bilo problema. Sve bi bilo organizirano kako treba. U čemu je sad problem i zašto se konstantno ignorira Tornado, zna samo predsjednik Šimunov.

Za srozavanje ugleda kluba na najniže moguće grane od svog osnutka, još uvijek nitko ne odgovara, odnosno, ne zna se tko je odgovoran za nastale dugove. Iako se priča o reformama u klubu, isti je puno takozvanih ‘uhljeba’ kojih se nitko ne može riješiti, a kad se treba razgovarati o odgovornosti, svi peru ruke od nekad najvećeg ponosa grada Zadra. Upravo ti koji peru ruke od kluba, od njega su najviše omastili brkove. Značajno je i to kako aktualni predsjednik kluba, predugo šuti o stanju koje je zatekao u klubu, odnosno, iz njemu poznatih razloga ne smije o tome govoriti, iako bi mu osobno bilo od koristi da javnosti predoči podatke tko je, kada i na koji način ‘jamio’.

Za napomenuti je i to kako je sportski direktor, Branko Skroče, kad je došao u klub, javno kazao kako u od kluba novce traže neki igrači koji nikad nisu zaigrali za prvu momčad. Neki su se tada smijali njegovoj izjavi i smatrali su je u najmanju ruku čudnom i neozbiljnom, kad odjednom, račun kluba blokira Danko Šestić. Mnogi ni danas ne znaju da je to momak koji je imao četverogodišnji klub sa Zadrom, a jedina poveznica s klubom bila mu je ta što igrao na posudbi (s pravovaljanim, profesionalnim ugovorom) u Jazinama, kasnije i u Zaboku. Nakon toga, Šestić bez isplaćene lipe napušta Zadar i traži od kluba nekoliko tisuća Eura, na što se Uprava kluba na čelu s tadašnjim predsjednikom Dinom Perovićem, kasnije i aktualnim predsjednikom, Edvinom Šimunovom – oglušuje. Zatim slijede dvije presude, od čega je posljednja pravomočna, a klub su sustigle i kamate pa se iznos koji KK Zadar treba isplatiti Šestiću odjednom povećao na 200 tisuća kuna. Ništa čudno, rekli bi oni upućeniji u (ne)rad kluba, no opet nitko iz Uprave kluba ne želi govoriti o ovim stvarima, već se krivnja prebacuje s jedne osobe na drugu, odnosno s ‘uprave’ na ‘onu drugu upravu’.

Famozna četveročlana komisija koja je neko vrijeme vodila klub, dok uzde nije preuzeo Dino Perović, bivši predsjednik kluba, također je znala za ovaj i slične slučajeve, ali apsolutno ništa nisu napravili da se takva i slične situacije riješe, odnosno da se izbjegne situacija u kojoj klub, koje je igraču trebao isplatiti nekoliko tisuća Eura, sada mora biti suočen sa pravomočnom presudom, prema kojoj KK Zadar igraču Danku Šestiću mora isplatiti oko 200 tisuća kuna. Klub i dalje ima ugovore s fantomskim agencijama koje se godinama financiraju određene povlaštene firme, a sve iz klupskog proračuna. No, i o tome predsjednik šuti, odnosno, iste podržava. Pitamo se samo zbog čega? Što predsjednik ima za reći na činjenicu da više članova uprave javno govori kako je elaborat o pretvorbi KK Zadar iz Udruge građana u Športsko dioničko društvo – nafriziran, odnosno da su iznosi dugovanja’naštimani’, također nam nije poznato. O tome i gore navenim stvarima svi šute. Nitko ništa ne za. Tipično za…




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  1. Bajlo ti si klaun, kada je klub odgovoran da mora organizirati MUKTE autobuse za navijace. Ove sezone se islo svugdi prvenstveno o SVOM trošku!

  2. Pa zašto momci ne idu besplatno na domaće utakmice, a troše na skupa gostovanja? Ne kužim, momci ne žele podržati lopove iz KK Zadar u svojoj dvorani, a žicaju od istih ljudi da im sređuje buseve?

    1. što se ne bi predsjednik jednog kluba triba prvo zahvaliti svojim navijačima koji igrače prate na svim gostovanjima, a tek onda medijima? mislim da bi to bilo fer i pošteno. ti ne misliš tako?

  3. tz 1965
    a što ču reči…nemam što reči, ovaj tekst ide u prilog tornadu….a točno je i ovo što je napisa , u potpisu ma- fra zahvala medijima nema veze sa tornadom… no istina je i nesmi se o tome šutiti…protiv zagreba u kupu …bilo je navijača za dva puna busa…zvali smo, tu sam svijedok…i šimunova i skroču…pa i samog kalmetu…dali su nam samo jedan bus…protiv dubrovnika , nisu tili dati ni jedan..momci koji sada vode tornado, tada su zvali zdenka zriliča i molili ga za finacisku pomoč..i on im je da mislim šest ili sedam tisuča kuna, da iznajmu, privatni bus , skojim su otišli u dubrovnik.
    no moram priznati , da i mene samog pomalo čudi, zašto taj isti tornado, neide isto tako u dvoranu , kad su domače utakmice… neznam , ali je vijerojatno u pitanju, neki bojkot, upravo zbog takvog , nepopularnog mačehinskog odnosa , ljudi iz kluba prema svoim vlastitim navijačima, rekoh…neznam ali prvom prilikom ču i to saznati

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  4. UPITNIK TEBI SAM ZABORAVIO DATI ODGOVOR… NE ŽICA TORNADO TE ISTE LJUDE…TU NISI NIT MALO U PRAVU…AKO TORNADO NAZOVE BRANKA SKROČU…TO ONDA NEMA VEZE SA TIM ISTIM LJUDIMA…JER VALJDA I SAM ZNAŠ DA JE SKROČE TU ZADNJI DOŠA I DA NEMA AMA BAŠ NIKAKVE VEZE NIT KRIVICE…SA BILO KOJOM , ŠPORKOM RABOTOM , KOJA SE DEŠAVALA DAVNO PRIJE NO ŠTO JE ON I STIGA U KLUB…ZATO NEMOJ BRKATI KRUŠKE I JABUKE

  5. Ovo nije normalno. Zasto Tornado nebi sam sebi placao prijevoz i karte kao i svaka druga normalna NAVIJACKA skupina na svijetu???
    Jedina stvar o kojoj bi navijaci trebali razgovarati s upravom kluba su rezultati!
    Skoro pa ste poceli izgledati na navijace i onda se ponovno brukate; do jucer ste moralizirali Kohorti i Demonima da su placenici jer organiziraju putovanja po 60-80Kn (jer klubovi ili grad snose dio troskova).
    Vi uzimate besplatne karte, besplatne autobuse i ne navijate na domacim tekmama?! Tko je tu lud?!

  6. FERENSICA OD ČEGA ČE TORNADO SAM SEBI PLAČATI AUTOBUSE…ŠTO JE TO NEKA PROFITABILNA FIRMA KOJA ZARAĐUJE LOVU , PA TO MOŽE SEBI PRIUŠTITI….ŠTO TI USPOREĐUJEŠ TORNADO SA TORCIDOM I BBB KOJE SU MEGA INSTITUCIJE…A TORCIDA ČAK I DIONIČAR VLASTITOG KLUBA….JESI TI MOMAK POLUDIJA….AJ MOLIM TE NE VALJAJ PIZDARIJE

      1. ja sam redovni posjetioc utakmica zadra punnooo godina i nisam se nasao uvrijeđen time sto mi iz kluba nisu zahvalili.
        i ne osjecam potrebu da mi se neko zahvaljuje.
        idem na utakmice za svoj gust. valjda i decki iz tornada idu iz svojeg gusta na gostovanja a ne zato sto moraju…
        uostalom, nisam procitao sluzbenu izjavu tornada nego samo bajlovo sapunanje daske…
        krenuo je od zahvale novinara pa dosao do sestica, pretvorbe itd…
        kakve to veze ima jedno sa drugim…

        1. A KAKO NEMA VEZE JEDNO S DRUGIM BISERU JEDAN KAD TE TAKO MORAM NAZVATI. PA UPRAVO RADI TIH STVARI JE KLUB U KURCU A O TOME NIKO NE PIŠE!

  7. sime…koliko ja znam tornado nije poslao nikome bilo kakav prigovor..pogotovo nekom iz kluba…stoga sime što ste se onda raspisali ovoliko i ovako o tornadu…tornado nema nikakve veze sa bailovim priopčenjem…a nebi se nit trebao ljutiti , na nikog iz kluba , ako ih nije spomenuo , nit im se zahvalio….jer ako ne dolaze na domače utakmice što če im se ko onda i zahvaljivat…. ali ode nije bitan , nit klub , nit novinari , več vi dežurni dušobrižnici..koji jedva čekate da se spomene ime tornado da bi mogli srati o njemu…. a zato se morete sramiti , svi skupa…to vam iskreno govori čovik od 50 godina…koji je tom istom zadru i tom istom tornadu…poklonio mladost i zdravlje
    SRAMITE SE SVI TAKVI DO JEDNOGA

  8. Ma bit svega je da je čovik, predsjednik kluba naša sebi za volju zahvaliti se medijima na praćenju Zadra iz dana u dan i u A1 ligi di je bilo po parsto ljudi u dvorani na utakmici, a većina ljudi je jedva čekala da prospe sav svoj jal i žuč na jedan, u ovim vrimenima, lip potez Šimunova, potez koji nema veze ni s tornadom, ni s lovom, ni s igračima ni ičim drugim. Stvarno neke ljude more biti sram.

  9. ferenscica ima pravo. kakva je to teorija da klub placa svoje navijace?! doslovice placa da dodu, jer u slucaju da se ne risi besplatni bus brojka od 70 “vjernih” navijaca spadne na svega njih 10-ak… ljudi moji ici cu zadra gledati jer ga volim, jer mu zelim pruziti podrsku u svakoj vukojebini, a ne da me zadar placa da dodjem navijati. jer na kraju to tako ispada. nemam nista protiv nikoga, ali jedini minus mi je taj mentalitet “ako ne risite bus necemo doci”. necu ulaziti u to ko sidi u upravama i koga se zica lovu, govorim opcenito za klub. jebate svi smo u fianancijskim problemima, nije lako, ali UVIK postoji nacin kako doci do grada u kojemu voljeni klub igra. ako nista drugo palac gore i dovidjenja. samo malo volje je potrebno. ako se ne varam mladi dok su vodili to sve bili su na svakom gostovanju o svom trosku, a vecina vas ih je prozivala agentima ovo ono… pozdrav svim ljubiteljima, simpatizerima i navijacima naseg Zadra!

  10. kad nisan na utakmici lovi me nervoza, iman grop u grlu, vrtin teletext, surfan po internetu, zoven prijatelje… meni je nezamislivo da se neko deklarira ka Tornado, a ne dolazi na utakmice. ja za svaku izgubin dva dana jer živin na škoju, a koliko šoldi potrošin – ne zanima me

  11. gohst ..ja tebe sad pitam di su to , ti mladi išli na gostovanje sa punim busom…nemoj brate ode davati dezinformacije…košarku nisu nit pratili..a nogomet su gledali sa jednim ili dva osobna auta…kome ti momak ode lažeš….

    a ti što spominješ i govoriš o pravim navijačima…moraš znati da danas ima puno više roditelja, koji svojoj dici nemogu priuštiti 100 kuna za gostovanje….malo je onih koji to mogu sebi danas priuštiti…jer večina ovih od koima ti pričam nigdi neradi….i to sebi uz najbolju volju nemogu priuštiti

    1. boro prije svega da znas da te postujem kao navijaca i nije mi cilj ode svadjati se sa tobom, ali moram te demantirati da nebi ljudi mislili da ih lazem…

      eto poceti cu sa cinjenicama da su mladi od kad su preuzeli udrugu pratili klub u svojim troskovima i to
      nogomet: NK Lucko- jedan bus cca 60; Nk Varaždin- jedan bus cca 60; Šibenik-brodom 100-ak (pojedinci su tu upali i u neke dugove da bi otplatili brod); NK Istra- 2 auta 10 ljudi; NK Split- autima cca 50; NK Cibalia 6 ljudi stopom; NK Karlovac- 11 neorganizirano; NK Hajduk 80 ljudi na razne nacine… jedino se nije bilo u Zapresicu zbog otkazivanja busa u zadnji tren. tu staje nogomet,
      kosarka: KK Široki u Šibeniku(pripremna)- kombi 18 covika; KK Krizevci- 20; KK Alkar- 20 autima; KK Zabok- 25 vlakom; KK Split 20+(neznam tocno); KK brod svjetlost-6 u jednom autu; KK Darda Osijek- 6 isto u jednom autu… jedino se nije bilo na KK Kvarner, neznam zasto… to je sve u razdoblju od lita do zime…

      Boli me kurac koliko je ljudi i di bilo, i ovo sto sam napisa sam napisa samo da demantiram tvoj upis da lazem da su mladji pratili nogomet samo sa 2 auta, tj. da kosarku uopce nisu pratili… Ove brojke su goli kurac kakvu bi Zadar podrsku triba imati na gostovanju, ali svi zajedno tribamo odjebati kukanje i odlaske na gostovanja samo ako su busevi besplatni.. Normalno kriza je, nema se love ali 80% onih mladjih koji su otisli tu lovu su uzimali od marende, skupljali vise dana, posuđivali…, ali otislo se iz razloga da se bodri voljeni klub, a nisu zvali kalmete ove one… a iako ne pisem cesto ovdje, sican se koliko ste blatili mlađe “koji su se prodali za sendvic”, a malo ljudi zna da su ti isti momci i zagrmili protiv rene (doduse malo u strahu) gdje bi im puno znacila podrska starijih navijaca.. necu vise braniti mlađe jer imali su i oni par gafova, jedino sto zelim da svi mi, pocevsi od sebe odjebemo raznorazna piskaranja po internetima i kada zadar igra negdje okupiti ekipu, sjesti u auto i zapiciti gore bez raznih opravdanja… kad se nema, nema se, neces ici, ali brate svaki od nas moze skupiti 100-200kn na mjesec da BAREM jedno mjesecno ode na gostovanje.
      Zivili

      1. ghost pretjera si sa brojkama a npr sibenik brodom nije 100 neego 80 i zato ne seri a sto boro kaze istina je mladi su odjebali kosarku a prate samo nogomet

      2. i u biti ma koji kurac vise i zd portal i itko spominje tornado,a sto se tice tornado jeba i stare i mlade ako se neide jer i jedni i drugi su u kurcu zato i staro i mlado svi u tornado

  12. ghost
    reka si da ti nije u cilju…lagati…a krivo pišeš…sva gostovanja koja si nabroia…nadoda si 20 ..i više ljudi viška…kao prvo postoje na tornadovom forumu slike, koje ste , sami vi stavili sa tih vaših…kako ih vi zovete košarkaških gostovanja…nit približno na tim slikama nema ljudi koliko si ih ti izbroia…to je jedno…drugo , na tom istom tornado forumu postoji slika, i sa tim gostovanjem BRODOM di ste se prije polaska svi u dva reda slikali isprid broda , prije no što ste krenuli…ti kažeš da vas je bilo 100…a ja ti tvrdim da bar onoliko koliko sam bar ja izbroja , bilo vas je oko 80…treče..reka si da ste vi vikali renu na utakmici…a ja ti moram reči da i to lažeš… vikali su mu , martin i jakov iz arbanasa..a koliko ja znam oni nisu mulci…četvrto govoriš i kao nešto pribacuješ, da vi niste kao molili kalmetu za autobuse…točno istinu govoriš za to…ali to je zato što vas i nije bilo za napuniti autobus , nedaj bože dva…. vidiš ja sam ga , puno puta zva , za autobus, i to me nije sram reči..dapače ponosan sam na to…jer nikad ga nisam zva dok sam skupa sa butom vodia tornado…za jedan ili dva busa…ja sam ga zva za 11..nogomet protiv šibenika…ili 10..cibona – zadar kup kreše…kad je svih 10 busova koliko ih je tada išlo bilo i više no krcato…zato nemišaj kruške i jabuke, i neuspoređuj mars i jupiter…vidim da si mlad dečko , pa ču ti samo još ovo reči… znalo se desiti da bi naručili 6 buseva za zagreb… a na branimiru bi nas se skupilo za tri puna… misliš da bi ja onda dozvolia da se ide….e moj momak , to je onda bila sramota…i ja i bute bi otkazali putovanje…a sad zamisli da nam je onda bilo reči , da če mo u zagreb iči kombijem to bi bija vic i sprdačina , I SADA ONO NAJVAŽNIJE I ZADNJE ZA KRAJ

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